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Asked by rwniceing
at 2024-08-22 00:54:34
ModifyPoint:500 Replies:23 POST_ID:829189USER_ID:12079
Topic:
JavaScript;Java Programming Language;PHP Scripting Language
After studying prototype of javascript from article tutorial on this site
http://code.tutsplus.com/tutorials/prototypes-in-javascript--net-24949
In that article, it mentions purpose of prototype will use less memory usage for javascript
if creating many objects like 1000 game objects .In other words, all Game objects can use the same prototype in the function to save memory.
Now I try to create a simple example for tutorial to understand prototype easier.
I try to create a function for restaurant order price calculation according number of food and drink to order. So we need formula in a function for example
function CookMenu(food,drink){
this.price=3100*food+200*drink
return this
}
and I need object for every customer such as
var guest_Bob_price = new CookMenu(2,3); // guest_Bob_price.price =800
We could NOT change the code of the formula of the function during running besides re-write the code after code running. So if the owner of the restaurant suddenly want to
change CookMenu prices to pricechg=300*food+700*drink during applcation code is running , the prototype might be useful to change the internal structure of CookMenu function, Right ?
My question is that
1- How to update Cookmenu function for prototype without creating
many guest customer objects such as 1000 times of similar "var guest_Bob_price = new CookMenu(2,3);" if I have 1000 different guest or customers ?
2- Could I delete function property such as price when pricechg prototype property
is created ? Now guest_Bob_price.price =800 and after change, guest_Bob_price.pricechg =2700. In other words, I want to guest_Bob_price.price =2700 to replace pricechg.
Please read my following CookMenu code for example only and read console.log
and Please advise
Or you can suggest other good tutorial example besides mine that show a good or best
easy understanding the main purpose of prototype and application examples.
Rwniceing
http://code.tutsplus.com/tutorials/prototypes-in-javascript--net-24949
In that article, it mentions purpose of prototype will use less memory usage for javascript
if creating many objects like 1000 game objects .In other words, all Game objects can use the same prototype in the function to save memory.
Now I try to create a simple example for tutorial to understand prototype easier.
I try to create a function for restaurant order price calculation according number of food and drink to order. So we need formula in a function for example
function CookMenu(food,drink){
this.price=3100*food+200*drink
return this
}
and I need object for every customer such as
var guest_Bob_price = new CookMenu(2,3); // guest_Bob_price.price =800
We could NOT change the code of the formula of the function during running besides re-write the code after code running. So if the owner of the restaurant suddenly want to
change CookMenu prices to pricechg=300*food+700*drink during applcation code is running , the prototype might be useful to change the internal structure of CookMenu function, Right ?
My question is that
1- How to update Cookmenu function for prototype without creating
many guest customer objects such as 1000 times of similar "var guest_Bob_price = new CookMenu(2,3);" if I have 1000 different guest or customers ?
2- Could I delete function property such as price when pricechg prototype property
is created ? Now guest_Bob_price.price =800 and after change, guest_Bob_price.pricechg =2700. In other words, I want to guest_Bob_price.price =2700 to replace pricechg.
Please read my following CookMenu code for example only and read console.log
and Please advise
Or you can suggest other good tutorial example besides mine that show a good or best
easy understanding the main purpose of prototype and application examples.
Rwniceing
<!DOCTYPE html><html><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><head><title>Title</title><script type="text/javascript">function CookMenu(food,drink){ //console.log(CookMenu.prototype.pricechg);//undefined if (CookMenu.prototype.pricechg==undefined){ this.price=100*food+200*drink; return this; }}function start(){var guest_Bob_price = new CookMenu(2,3);var guest_John_price = new CookMenu(5,6);console.log("Bob pay price:", guest_Bob_price.price);console.log("John pay price:", guest_John_price.price);//-Menu price might change if input value=1if (document.getElementById("owner").value==1){CookMenu.prototype={pricechg:function(food,drink){ return 300*food+700*drink; }};var owner_restaurant=new CookMenu(2,3);}var guest_Bob_price = new CookMenu(2,3);var guest_John_price = new CookMenu(2,3);console.log("Bob pay new price:", guest_Bob_price.pricechg(2,3));console.log("John pay new price:", guest_John_price.pricechg(2,3));}</script><body onload="start();"><div>Prototype javascript tutorial, for example, restaurant menu price change</div><div><input type="text" name="owner" id="owner" value="1" /></div></body></html> 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:8:9:10:11:12:13:14:15:16:17:18:19:20:21:22:23:24:25:26:27:28:29:30:31:32:33:34:35:36:37:38:39:40:41:42:43:44:
Expert: Rob Jurd replied at 2024-08-24 18:52:11
Sure I understand that. It's a long road to understanding this stuff. Just keep posting new questions on the topics you don't understand and we'll do our best to answer them. I'm just saying do not neglect any training you can do in this area. It seems you've got a basic understanding of programming, it would be good for you to refine it.
Please, please take the time to read my article on JS objects as it covers all the topics we've discussed here:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/Scripting/JavaScript/A_13138-Javascript-is-just-an-Object.html
Please, please take the time to read my article on JS objects as it covers all the topics we've discussed here:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/Scripting/JavaScript/A_13138-Javascript-is-just-an-Object.html
Author: rwniceing replied at 2024-08-24 18:50:30
Thanks for your reply and those article links
Author: rwniceing replied at 2024-08-24 18:47:10
OR suggestion for good tutorial example from the topic post ?
The answer is at this OOP and Prototype javascript tutorial link at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu08qQCmw8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBoUT2eBlT4
that is also found in http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/Scripting/JavaScript/Q_28504085.html#a40282093
People are no patience to complete to read the article because of a lot of terminology or technical term that is not clear enough to state , and so sometimes video tutorial is better than articles
we can say two post have similar questions but not exact same if we go into details
Rwniceing
The answer is at this OOP and Prototype javascript tutorial link at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu08qQCmw8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBoUT2eBlT4
that is also found in http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/Scripting/JavaScript/Q_28504085.html#a40282093
People are no patience to complete to read the article because of a lot of terminology or technical term that is not clear enough to state , and so sometimes video tutorial is better than articles
we can say two post have similar questions but not exact same if we go into details
Rwniceing
Expert: Rob Jurd replied at 2024-08-24 18:40:36
I really think it would be better for you to study object oriented programming. Understand about the reserved keywords etc
All we're doing here is answering one question to ask another
All we're doing here is answering one question to ask another
Author: rwniceing replied at 2024-08-24 18:33:38
The final answer in following link, may answer the question-1 and question-2
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/Scripting/JavaScript/Q_28504085.html#a40282093
Answer to question
1-It is not necessary to create the new object for Bob and John unless you need to
record customer different property such as name, gender, age....id...,etc.
2- Just use Child OwnerCookMenu() and parent CookMenu() function with prototype as the answer in the link, Child will inherit all property from parent, so you can use the same price property and emulate the price override , for example,
pay=OwnerCookMenu.prototype =new CookMenu();
if (document.getElementById("owner").value==1){
OwnerCookMenu.prototype.price= function(food,drink){ return 300*food+700*drink; }
}
Rwniceing
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/Scripting/JavaScript/Q_28504085.html#a40282093
Answer to question
1-It is not necessary to create the new object for Bob and John unless you need to
record customer different property such as name, gender, age....id...,etc.
2- Just use Child OwnerCookMenu() and parent CookMenu() function with prototype as the answer in the link, Child will inherit all property from parent, so you can use the same price property and emulate the price override , for example,
pay=OwnerCookMenu.prototype =new CookMenu();
if (document.getElementById("owner").value==1){
OwnerCookMenu.prototype.price= function(food,drink){ return 300*food+700*drink; }
}
Rwniceing
Expert: Rob Jurd replied at 2024-08-22 18:36:26
that might not create more memory since the function is same for every times in first example, Right ?
This is up to the interpreter (i.e. the browser) and how smart it is when it interprets the code to process it.Most browsers have task managers built in. You could use this in conjunction with the local OS task manager to see which way it goes.
Given I have no part in programming any of the browsers you would need to do this to see how it would go.
As for the most efficient way of doing it, I would go with your prototype version as the structure is created first, then the instantiating. Doing them at the same time would make it difficult for any interpreter to know that it's the same function being created, so i would expect iit to use more memory and be more inefficient than the prototype version. In a loop, you could just be making one small change to the attached function, based on the index say, that would make each new function unique.
Author: rwniceing replied at 2024-08-22 18:24:15
question-1, for normal first example code,
So creating 10000 times of function(){} that might not create more memory since the function is same for every times in first example, Right ? OR it will create function() every time and occupy different location memory since every function() memory created is not destroyed unless program is exited.
I believe the first example will create 10000 function() different memory location even the function() code is same for every time , that is why prototype example code will run much faster than first example ?
Please advise
So creating 10000 times of function(){} that might not create more memory since the function is same for every times in first example, Right ? OR it will create function() every time and occupy different location memory since every function() memory created is not destroyed unless program is exited.
I believe the first example will create 10000 function() different memory location even the function() code is same for every time , that is why prototype example code will run much faster than first example ?
Please advise
Expert: Rob Jurd replied at 2024-08-22 18:12:07
Yes the prototype code will use less memory, as the 1000 objects will reference the one function.
However, In the first example, You're essentially creating a copy of the same function 1000 times if you do that within the loop.
However, In the first example, You're essentially creating a copy of the same function 1000 times if you do that within the loop.
Author: rwniceing replied at 2024-08-22 18:08:17
The code following is similar code idea to quote in the attached link ,http://code.tutsplus.com/tutorials/prototypes-in-javascript--net-24949, at "Prototype is better" for Game Object.
After I run both for loop code for normal one and prototype one, the prototype one will
run faster since it just create one or only one copy of function() {console.log("it's a bar');}
so that use less memory than creating 10000 function() in normal code.
That is why today's Gaming programming is based on prototype-based javascript, Right ?
Please advise
After I run both for loop code for normal one and prototype one, the prototype one will
run faster since it just create one or only one copy of function() {console.log("it's a bar');}
so that use less memory than creating 10000 function() in normal code.
That is why today's Gaming programming is based on prototype-based javascript, Right ?
Please advise
//-----------------------Normal codefor (var i=0;i<10000;i++) { Foo = new Object(); Foo.bar = function() { console.log('Its a bar'); }; var x = Foo; x.bar();}//-----------------Prototypevar Foo = function(){};Foo.prototype.bar = function(){console.log('Its a bar');};for (var i=0;i<10000;i++) { var x = new Foo(); x.bar();} 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:8:9:10:11:12:13:14:15:
Expert: Rob Jurd replied at 2024-08-22 17:23:26
I have a basic understanding of punters but essentially they are variables that refer to a predefined area of memory (they hold the memory location not the variables value)
I guess that's where you may have got the idea of a pointer. I suppose the principle of the prototype could loosely resemble a pointer but it's giving you the wrong impression. They really shouldn't be compared. Prototype is probably more closely related to an C interface as I understand it, but don't quote me :-)
Think of it more as a way of adding and removing functions and variables on an object in JavaScript
I guess that's where you may have got the idea of a pointer. I suppose the principle of the prototype could loosely resemble a pointer but it's giving you the wrong impression. They really shouldn't be compared. Prototype is probably more closely related to an C interface as I understand it, but don't quote me :-)
Think of it more as a way of adding and removing functions and variables on an object in JavaScript
Expert: Rob Jurd replied at 2024-08-22 17:17:25
No, not sure where you got that from. Two very different constructs, especially since JavaScript is an interpreted language and C isn't
Author: rwniceing replied at 2024-08-22 17:15:01
And it seems prototype in javascript is similar or same idea of a pointer in C programming, Right ?
Expert: Rob Jurd replied at 2024-08-22 16:01:54
Thanks for clearing that up Ray.
JavaScript is a little different too. You instantiate objects but every class inherits from the object class. I go into more detail in this article.
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/Scripting/JavaScript/A_13138-Javascript-is-just-an-Object.html
JavaScript is a little different too. You instantiate objects but every class inherits from the object class. I go into more detail in this article.
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/Scripting/JavaScript/A_13138-Javascript-is-just-an-Object.html
Expert: Ray Paseur replied at 2024-08-22 10:02:10
The act of creating an object is called instantiation. It is a term of art in computer science.
Author: rwniceing replied at 2024-08-22 09:15:52
but it is not instantiating example , just for object example
Expert: Ray Paseur replied at 2024-08-22 09:14:40
Here's a great example:
http://www.w3schools.com/js/js_objects.asp
http://www.w3schools.com/js/js_objects.asp
Author: rwniceing replied at 2024-08-22 09:01:37
Could you make a simple example for instantiating ?
Expert: Ray Paseur replied at 2024-08-22 08:59:40
Yes, what you've just illustrated is initializing the variable a with a value of 1. The variable a now represents an integer, not an object (except in some languages, such as Ruby on Rails).
Author: rwniceing replied at 2024-08-22 08:53:27
var a;
a=1;
A is initializing to null and then
a=1, a is set to 1.
Right ?
What is different between both of instantiating and intializing ?
Could you make an example if your last post is correct ?
a=1;
A is initializing to null and then
a=1, a is set to 1.
Right ?
What is different between both of instantiating and intializing ?
Could you make an example if your last post is correct ?
Assisted Solution
Expert: Ray Paseur replied at 2024-08-22 08:48:06
100 points EXCELLENT
instantiating meaning initializing, Right ?
Be careful of the terminology here. When you create an object from a class, you are creating an instance of the class, hence the term instantiating. Initializing may have a different meaning, such as setting a variable to a predefined value. Expert: Rob Jurd replied at 2024-08-22 06:06:22
that's right (to both your questions)
Author: rwniceing replied at 2024-08-22 06:03:05
Thanks for your reply, I will read it Before that,
instantiating meaning initializing, Right ?
override meaning overwrite, Right ?
instantiating meaning initializing, Right ?
override meaning overwrite, Right ?
Accepted Solution
Expert: Rob Jurd replied at 2024-08-22 05:42:47
400 points EXCELLENT
Ok I would start by reading my article on Javascript classes: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/Scripting/JavaScript/A_12264-Javascript-Frameworks-what-are-they.html
Then follow up on the Mozilla Object Oriented tutorial as they go into more depth on the prototype keyword: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Introduction_to_Object-Oriented_JavaScript
Once you understand about creating classes and instantiating them, as well as overriding and adding functions using the prototype keyword, then post back here with any questions you might have.
Rob
Then follow up on the Mozilla Object Oriented tutorial as they go into more depth on the prototype keyword: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Introduction_to_Object-Oriented_JavaScript
Once you understand about creating classes and instantiating them, as well as overriding and adding functions using the prototype keyword, then post back here with any questions you might have.
Rob
